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Old 01-19-2009
 
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We should fear all Muslims because of the actions of a few? Why wouldn't the same apply to Christianity or Judaism? Perhaps some ignorant bias there?
Define "few", please.
 
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Yeah, I'd like to see someone define "few". What's "few". If you grab 100 random people off the streets of say... Iran... how many of them support say... Shariah Law as an example? Or 100 Muslims from France... how many? How many Muslims off anywhere in the world think it would be ok to criticize their religion and wouldn't throw a fit over it knowing full well that it's freedom of speech? How many mother fuckers? how many? Can you answer that? You're so fucking fixed upon "terrorism" and "suicide bombings" which admittedly don't kill off that many people worldwide annually, and ignore everything else that is so fucked up with the religion.

What about genocide? What about womens rights? What about freedom of speech? Freedom of religion? Spread of Shariah Law and our democracy being used against us because these beetles overpopulate the planet? Noone ever has anything to say about that? They just look at their little Muslim friend that they played Xbox with in high school and believe all's good with that religion.

Idiots.
 
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Yeah, I'd like to see someone define "few". What's "few". If you grab 100 random people off the streets of say... Iran... how many of them support say... Shariah Law as an example? Or 100 Muslims from France... how many? How many Muslims off anywhere in the world think it would be ok to criticize their religion and wouldn't throw a fit over it knowing full well that it's freedom of speech? How many mother fuckers? how many? Can you answer that? You're so fucking fixed upon "terrorism" and "suicide bombings" which admittedly don't kill off that many people worldwide annually, and ignore everything else that is so fucked up with the religion.

What about genocide? What about womens rights? What about freedom of speech? Freedom of religion? Spread of Shariah Law and our democracy being used against us because these beetles overpopulate the planet? Noone ever has anything to say about that? They just look at their little Muslim friend that they played Xbox with in high school and believe all's good with that religion.

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Most of the people in the world who are not Muslims do not like Muslims.

Since their prior position was not caring one way or another about Muslims, we can assume that the reason for the change is the tendency of too many Muslims to behead people on video, blow up hundreds of people at a time, kidnap, etc.

Also DE is now on Islam's teat because his wife is a Mohammedan.
 
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Most of the people in the world who are not Muslims do not like Muslims.
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Since their prior position was not caring one way or another about Muslims, we can assume that the reason for the change is the tendency of too many Muslims to behead people on video, blow up hundreds of people at a time, kidnap, etc.

Also DE is now on Islam's teat because his wife is a Mohammedan.
I agree that he has this sudden interest in Islam because he professes his wife to be Muslim. Let's all take into consideration that he is a non-Muslim and a so called Muslim woman married him anyway. This should speak for itself. According to Islam a Muslim woman cannot marry a non-Muslim man because according to Islam the man is the head of the household and a non-Muslim husband can contradict this. "MUSLIM WOMAN AND NON-MUSLIM MAN:

..... And give not (your daughters) in marriage to
Al-Mushrikun** till they
believe in Allah alone and verily a believing slave is better
than a (free) Mushrik, even though he pleases you....[2:221] **
Al-Mushrikun=>Pagans, idolators, polytheist and disbelievers in
the Oneness of Allah and in His messanger Prophet Muhammad SAW)
- [[6]]

Islam considers the husband head-of-the-family and therefore
requires that a Muslima cannot marry a non-Muslim because she
will be under the authority of a non-muslim husband. He may
prevent her from carrying out her religious obligations by
either pressuring her or physically abusing her. But it is not
the sole reason for imposing the restriction. The situation is
considered very damaging for the woman to practise Islam
afterwards and even worse for the kids in such marriages. There
are NO conditions mentioned under which a Muslim woman IS
allowed to get married or remain married to a non-Muslim husband
after she has accepted Islam. Therefore, even if she has freedom
to practise Islam after marriage, she is NOT allowed to enter
into an inter-faith marriage."
http://www.jannah.org/sisters/intermarriage.html
 

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Um....isn't there some kind of rule that you have to speak English here?

It's kind of hard for me to debate you if I can't understand you.
 
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True, true but you can't deny that some of the Islam belivers are reasonable people who are not so zealous and fanatic.
Yea of course I have no prob agreein to this. But things like that are definatly reasons people could create....a "phobia" I sopose. It is an extremely violent religion at times and as in Iran can be used to rally masses not just a select few to violence.
 
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I am going to have to agree with The Hawaiian on this one.

First off, the Islamic faith aspires to peace. As with 90% of all other faiths in the world. You cannot judge a group of people due to how terrible and violent the actions of a handful of their members are, when others are peacefully living and intermarrying with other peoples and religions in other areas.

Then, the more obvious one, nobody else speaks whatever language you two, DTR and HV are using.
 
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Islamaphobia is a perfectly natural response to the carnage and mayhem Islam has wrought and is currently spreading all over the world.

When you are faced with something that threatens you, calls for the destruction of your way of life and attacks you at every opportunity the natural response is to view that thing with disdain. Muslims have been spreading their faith by the sword for 1300 years. They have tried to conquer Europe twice in the past, and now they are attempting a third time through mass migration and intimidation.

I am, and always will be unless there is a profound change in Muslim culture, profoundly Islamaphobic.

I did not start this war, my kind did not threaten to out-breed and destroy the Muslim world, this resentment is one the Muslims have brought on themselves and it is up to them, not us, to prove that we should think otherwise.
 

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I am going to have to agree with The Hawaiian on this one.

First off, the Islamic faith aspires to peace. As with 90% of all other faiths in the world. You cannot judge a group of people due to how terrible and violent the actions of a handful of their members are, when others are peacefully living and intermarrying with other peoples and religions in other areas.

Then, the more obvious one, nobody else speaks whatever language you two, DTR and HV are using.
I don't believe 90% or more of Iran, and millions from the rest of the Middle East is a handful.

You can down size it all you want. WHile there are many that are peaceful and I'm not saying there arn't There is a LARGE number that arn't and Often show it and show the hate there Religion has come to breed.
 
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Let me put it this way Hawaiian, the dates 9/11 (or 11/9 as it would be over here) and 7/7 show that not only are Muslims violent and aggressive, they also consider it acceptable to kill thousands of innocent civilians to prove a point.

Of course, yes, other religions have done the same, but let's not forget that Islam was founded in Mecca (or Medina, I can't remember which one), and within a century later was on the doorstep of Spain, and got halfway into France before it's spread was finally stopped. The Crusades started because of a desperate plea from Byzantium after they were nearly wiped out by the Muslims.

Of course, Islam in itself is not an evil religion, but you can't exactly say that Al-Qaeda is the Muslim equivalent of the Boys Scouts, and nor are they the only ones calling for the destruction of the western world. Sorry to be brusque here, but I think being killed because I don't believe in some fanatic's mad view of Heaven frankly offensive.
 
 

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Remember that the western world has been stepping on Islam for hundreds of years; since the English crusades into the middle east. That's why their religion has developed into a more violent one. UItimately, it's our fault. If the crusades never happened, Islam would be much different from the version we know today. There would never have been a 'war on terrorism', and the 9/11 attacks wouldn't have happened.

Seriously, why don't people do their research before decrying Islam as an evil, fanatical religion. Look at the Christian crusades; were they any better than what Islamists are doing to us today? The Crusades slaughtered god knows how many innocents, and look at the other terrible things Christianity has done; black opression was because of Christianity. The Aztecs died out because of them. The Stolen Generations happened because Christians and white people in general saw the blacks as no better than animals because of their alien beliefs which the Church decried as heresy, thus they were deemed Satanic, therefore they had to be kept 'under control'.

Honestly, now that I have a broad experience of worldwide society, I'm shocked at how much racism and Islamophobia abounds. It permeats the daily judgements the US military in the middle east make, and all the hatred they have given us in return is because of how we have opressed these people because of their appearance and belief systems. And it's far too late to make amends.
 
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