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Originally Posted by Chaos
DE needs to cut the bullshit again Taiwan is not internationally recognized as an independent country, South Ossetia is internationally recognized as Georgian territory. Under international law the Russian soldiers there are an illegal occupying army.
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Well being that according to international law Taiwan is not a country I don't give much credit to that presumption.
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Originally Posted by Chaos
Of course DE is from the Pat Buchanan school of thought, where Eastern Europe and the Caucasus are Russia's to do with as she pleases, regardless of what the people, you know, actually living there want.
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The people of South Ossetia don't want to be invaded by Georgia, thats for damn sure!
But oh, right, I guess
their concerns aren't legitimate, right? It's ok for Georgia to invade South Ossettia but it's not ok for Russia to retaliate? In that case you should not object to a Chinese invasion of Taiwan and specifically any kind of US retaliation.
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Originally Posted by Chaos
It's a double standard, all right. When the United States enters into settlements with other nations freely agreed upon by both sides, it's time to blow your stack at how wrong it is. When a nation like Russia brutalizes places like Chechnya and Georgia, it's okay because that's "Russia's backyard."
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Georgia started the war, kinda like how Israel is "brutalizing" the Palestinian territories. Are you saying Russia does not have a right to defend Russian citizens from genocide?
My problem is that I don't think it's worth risking nuclear war with Russia over a country like Georgia. But as of yet nobody here has once mentioned what could be gained from a nuclear war with Russia, not one positive aspect.
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Originally Posted by Chaos
DE is an apologist for any anti-American government, group, or cause. That almost all of them engage in the things he condemns America for allegedly engaging in (which, almost all the time, are lies or stupidity in "argument" form) is irrelevant. DE does not adhere to any principle save anti-Americanism. If Russia invaded the Ukraine or China invaded Taiwan tomorrow DE would find several highly stupid reasons why they were right, but America saved a country (Saudi Arabia) from being invaded by a lunatic asshole (Saddam Hussein) twenty years ago and this made another lunatic asshole (Osama bin Laden) angry because he's a racist lunatic asshole and to DE it's America's fault when the racist lunatic asshole starts massacring thousands of innocent people in dozens of countries around the globe.
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ROTFL, yeah we "saved" our "great ally" Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is the number one sponsor of terrorism in the world, FYI. What were the nationalities of the 9/11 hijackers again? Oh right, that bastion of freedom and democracy known as Saudi Arabia. Poor Saudis, all they want to do is spread their Wahhabist version of extremist, fundamentalist Islam around the world.
Saudi Arabia is a greater threat to freedom than Saddam could ever hope to be. At least Saddam forged a secular regime within a sea of Islamic fundamentalism.
Anyways, you are the one who has to defend a Chinese invasion of Taiwan, not me. You are the one saying that because the international community does not recognize Taiwan as an independent nation that means it's just Chinese territory and therefore China has every right to invade it's own territory right? I mean forget the fact that the Taiwanese people have had
de facto independence for 50 years now, and don't consider themselves to be part of mainland China, right? Thats irrelevent, whats important is the word games they play in international diplomacy, right?
Or are you holding a double standard for Taiwan that you don't allow for South Ossettia for some reason? Which is it?
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