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Old 02-14-2009
 
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We really should do a L4D event on Clan BF. Hell, we should do more with Clan BF.
 
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We really should do a L4D event on Clan BF. Hell, we should do more with Clan BF.
I like that idea
 
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I'd guess you would qualify your statement if you weren't talking out of your ass. I'll never know for sure, because you won't qualify your statement. Hmm.
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Counterstrike uses light, dark, positioning, pace, and TONS of gameplay finesse with each gun that make it endlessly entertaining.
The problem with CS is that it isn't "newb friendly". To get to the part where the game is "endlessly entertaining" requires you to die over and over and over and over and over again for months until you manage to reach that point where you are as good as everyone else. The reason why CS isn't growing on a large scale anymore is because of this fact. There are many new games out there such as Team Fortress 2 that are available and easy to learn. You can immediately spawn as a soldier, jump in, and start fragging people. In CS you log in and the first thing that happens to you is you get head shotted by the L33T Kr3W T34M. Not to mention that it'll happen 9000 times until you manage to get better.
 



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You realised that the L4D version on the 360 is inferior just because of the lack of modding community behind it, right?
I'm growing so tired of you passing judgment on games when you steal internet and can't afford to buy any. There I said it. Once you've played a game on both platforms then you can talk shit. Until then shut up sasuke. Seriously.

Consoles have one of the best voice chat communities a wide range of gamers (which pc for the most part does not, far more pro gamers on pc then 360 so the learning curve is higher.) And besides for as many good mods there are out there there are 4 times as many shitty ones.

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The problem with CS is that it isn't "newb friendly". To get to the part where the game is "endlessly entertaining" requires you to die over and over and over and over and over again for months until you manage to reach that point where you are as good as everyone else. The reason why CS isn't growing on a large scale anymore is because of this fact. There are many new games out there such as Team Fortress 2 that are available and easy to learn. You can immediately spawn as a soldier, jump in, and start fragging people. In CS you log in and the first thing that happens to you is you get head shotted by the L33T Kr3W T34M. Not to mention that it'll happen 9000 times until you manage to get better.
And thats AFTER you figure out that if you don't know how to use console you will NEVER have a chance.
 
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Old 02-16-2009
 
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The problem with CS is that it isn't "newb friendly". To get to the part where the game is "endlessly entertaining" requires you to die over and over and over and over and over again for months until you manage to reach that point where you are as good as everyone else. The reason why CS isn't growing on a large scale anymore is because of this fact. There are many new games out there such as Team Fortress 2 that are available and easy to learn. You can immediately spawn as a soldier, jump in, and start fragging people. In CS you log in and the first thing that happens to you is you get head shotted by the L33T Kr3W T34M. Not to mention that it'll happen 9000 times until you manage to get better.
TF2 makes for a poor comparison to CS for a number of reasons, primarily because the classes offer such a gross imbalance in play. I realize the comparison between CS:S and L4D is not direct either, but I don't feel that you ever addressed my complaint: absent gameplay.

When you're running, jumping, and shooting, do you ever truly feel "into" your character the way you do with WoW and CS:S? Where the character control begins to feel immersive? Even after 20 minutes of playing CS:S the realism and character control put the hook in me. After 2 hours of L4D I was still trying to lose the "clunky" feel behind the characters' moves. I guess they were going for "gritty realism" or whatever, but all I got out of it was "zombie biting my ass".
 
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I find CS as one of the easiest games to pick up and get good with a little amount of time...
 
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I find L4D way more immersive than CS
 
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TF2 makes for a poor comparison to CS for a number of reasons, primarily because the classes offer such a gross imbalance in play. I realize the comparison between CS:S and L4D is not direct either, but I don't feel that you ever addressed my complaint: absent gameplay.

When you're running, jumping, and shooting, do you ever truly feel "into" your character the way you do with WoW and CS:S? Where the character control begins to feel immersive? Even after 20 minutes of playing CS:S the realism and character control put the hook in me. After 2 hours of L4D I was still trying to lose the "clunky" feel behind the characters' moves. I guess they were going for "gritty realism" or whatever, but all I got out of it was "zombie biting my ass".
You 'feel' into your character when you play CS:S?

:/

Reall GA, you're just arguing opinions now. It's fine that you don't like the game, we can't (and shouldn't) jump you for that.
 
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I find CS as one of the easiest games to pick up and get good with a little amount of time...
I think it's possible to get 'okay' at the game but at the pro level (guys like smooth would attest) the game is fucking crazy hard. Players are intense and the pro gamers know the game inside and out.
 
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I'm growing so tired of you passing judgment on games when you steal internet and can't afford to buy any. There I said it. Once you've played a game on both platforms then you can talk shit. Until then shut up sasuke. Seriously.

Consoles have one of the best voice chat communities a wide range of gamers (which pc for the most part does not, far more pro gamers on pc then 360 so the learning curve is higher.) And besides for as many good mods there are out there there are 4 times as many shitty ones.
Hey don't be hating on me man!

And yes, I kind of -did- forget about voice communication. That's where L4D shines on the 360. But it's flaw is the lack of a modding community.
 
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CS: semi-realistic FPS without the bullshit of FPS's who try too damn hard
TF2: fun shooter
L4D: haven't played it yet but it has zombies
 
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L4D: haven't played it yet but it has zombies
Pretty much, eh?

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When you're running, jumping, and shooting, do you ever truly feel "into" your character the way you do with WoW and CS:S? Where the character control begins to feel immersive? Even after 20 minutes of playing CS:S the realism and character control put the hook in me. After 2 hours of L4D I was still trying to lose the "clunky" feel behind the characters' moves. I guess they were going for "gritty realism" or whatever, but all I got out of it was "zombie biting my ass".
To each his own. I don't personally think they were going for "realism" at all. But I can see where you are going with this. At the end of the day, its mindless, retarded fun. It's no CS, that's for sure. But that doesn't make it bad, and doesn't mean I don't absolutely love the game.

One thing I've found is that I don't really have the time to analyze my characters movements in L4D because I am constantly too busy shooting off hoards of zombies and running for my life. So... yeah... kill more zombies.... It should fix all of your problems.
 
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Frack I hate tanks. Was doing No Mercy on easy with dual pistols so I could get that achievement. At the damn finale, the second tank punches me over the edge
 
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Frack I hate tanks. Was doing No Mercy on easy with dual pistols so I could get that achievement. At the damn finale, the second tank punches me over the edge
Do it on Dead Air and get on top of the plane if you really need to, or just get an uber squad. 3 people can take out a tank.
 
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Well, I finally got the game and I am about to install it now. Once I get used to the game, definitely count me in for any on-line co-op in the future. Good thing I got that headset for Christmas.
 
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