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Old 01-16-2009
 
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IDK DM, you keep referring to CS:S as a comparison to this game, and honestly there is none. Counterstrike uses light, dark, positioning, pace, and TONS of gameplay finesse with each gun that make it endlessly entertaining. If you ever played L4D with the sound off, you'd know what I mean. It loses nearly all of its intensity. Screaming and shrieks are half the game.

Then you have to wonder why these people are traveling at night, of all times, when they can't see where they're going and they can't get an idea of what's out there. The answer? The cheesy scare factor. It's the same concept behind putting strobe lights in horror movies. The thought of a threat that is unseen appeals to a primal fear in people.

Then that leaves you with the gameplay, which is fair. That's it. Fair. You have bazillions of guys blitzing at you and occasionally a superguy. You have to arrive at X checkpoint and item budget your health and weapon(s). Meh. Seems like it'd be fun for about two weeks, then it'd be boring as hell and I'd never play it again.

I bring these things up, because as I sat there playing the demo, I came to realize each in turn. The first thing I noticed was that my normal sound volume was WAY too loud for this game, because it was hurting my hears. The constant shuttling between super quiet dot dot dot BLASTING LOUD OMFG THIS BITCH IS SCREAMING AT YOU LOUD NOISES was giving me a headache. After I got the sound under control, I tried slowing down a bit and using my light in a more deliberate manner, and then noticed that zombies were standing around in certain places. When my bozo teammate would blitz around the corner like his head was on fire, the zombie would "pop" and obviously freak him out. It annoyed me that the game was not as dynamic as had been claimed; the zombies weren't even patrolling. Basically, they were using a lack of light as a means to suprise players--which is lost when you know this. So when I tried to take advantage of the poor AI of the zombies by pulling CS-like manuevers, the gap between play controls of the games became overpoweringly obvious. Making a "skill shot" was basically the equivalent of peeing into a drinking cup off a four story building . Using any gun other than the M4 to do the peeing was a complete waste of time.

So, in summary, after playing the demo, I concluded there would be no other way to play this game than:

A. With friends
B. On high difficulty
C. As a one to two hour time killer one or twice a week

Because with bots or slobs on the net it would be more irritating than fun due to griefing / skill gaps, etc., on low difficulty the gameplay's shortcomings would become far too obvious, and after more than 60-90 minutes of the constant screaming the game's obnoxiousness would overload my cortex. Playing more than once or twice a week would make its redundancies tiresome.

That is the conclusion that I drew from the demo.
 
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You take it to seriously. The game standards you set for this game can't rival that of CS:S, or really most FPS because that's not how it works.

I admit it has all the things normal FPS games have, yes, but that's like saying you can play Halo 3 the exact same way you play Call of Duty 4. You can't, they're different games and with different ways to play. The zombie mechanic is inventive, to say the least, and when you play with a good group of friends, it becomes FUN, not just a game.

I think your problem is that you went out looking for ways to call the game down instead of praise it for what it does do. Like I said, the zombie mechanic is very well done, the spawning of special infected is varied which gives you a new sense of "oh shit, where is he now?" kind of gameplay. I also take problem with that zombies need to be doing something. I mean really, what kind of statement is that? Zombies are known for general retardation, and depending on what kind of zombies you're talking about, lack of dexterity.

You're right on one thing though, it's to easy on easy. But ya know, they give you a type of message saying "This is for people new to the game". If you're not new or not fucking around with friends, why are you playing on such a low difficulty?

The sound is something, once again, I can't agree on. Bioshock had it, Dead Space had it, Resident Evil has it, so why is it bad that a horror based game puts horror based music in it? The point of it is not to appeal to the people who understand why the music's there, though that's a tough thing to say considering pretty much everybody can figure out why the music is what it is in about 5 seconds by actually thinking about it, but to the player who's focused on the game, rather than the sounds. They're just an add-on, if you will.

As for the light, I once again assume you're A) pointing out big flaws that you don't like and B) aren't playing in a tense game. That's all there is to it.

All in all, I think you're missing out. If you haven't played Versus mode with 8 good players, you haven't played a true, epic match of L4D. No doubt the campaign with 3 other friends on advanced is tough, but Versus is where the real action is at.

You're right though, playing with friends is usually a must. Ask our L4D squad that a bunch of us on the forums/360 play, it's probably our top played game right now.
 
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Are you kidding Geno? CS:S is probably one of the worst examples you could've used.
 



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Are you kidding Geno? CS:S is probably one of the worst examples you could've used.
I'd guess you would qualify your statement if you weren't talking out of your ass. I'll never know for sure, because you won't qualify your statement. Hmm.
 
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I smell a necromancer in here.
 
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LEFT 4 DEAD IS FUCKING 25 DOLLARS THIS WEEKEND

GO BUY IT

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Yeah and for 100 bucks? Seriously?
 
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For a moment there I thought he bought the 4 pack one but I just realised there was an Aussie flag right next to his name. That explains it all.

Games cost a shitload in Australia.
 
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He shouldve just watched less porn this month and used bandwidth to buy it from america, or have an american buy it for him and gift it >.>

Then again, I dont know how much bandwidth you aussies get each month.

I still love this game, versus is extremely fun. I like being a hunter, but get frustrated when I have to play a smoker. It is way too easy to save people getting smoked, then you have to wait like 20 seconds for the tongue to cooldown since you successfully caught somebody. I have only played the campaign once, as I am waiting for my friends to get the game (one is waiting to get it until he upgrades his computer in the next week or two).

EDIT: This game is nothing like CS:S or any other FPS I have played. The versus mode requires a lot of teamwork from both parties, and a skilled infected team can absolutely destroy uncoordinated human teams.
 

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Yeah and for 100 bucks? Seriously?
I made a promise that I will buy L4D when I go to the local EB Games no matter what, I probably should have waited for a sale or something but I couldn't wait

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For a moment there I thought he bought the 4 pack one but I just realised there was an Aussie flag right next to his name. That explains it all.

Games cost a shitload in Australia.
You hear that from Yahtzee?

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He shouldve just watched less porn this month and used bandwidth to buy it from america, or have an american buy it for him and gift it >.>

Then again, I dont know how much bandwidth you aussies get each month.
Bandwidth is Australia is precious as water. Oh and I don't anyone willing to fork out the dosh for me

But damn is the game worth it. After playing for a bit, I don't get scared because at it's core it's still a action FPS with a large focus on teamwork. The enemies just happens to be zombies and there happens to be lots of dark alleys.

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You guys should all buy 360's and play with the cool kids.


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With the upcoming God of War 3 the last thing I would do is buy a Xbox 360.
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I got the message crystal clear from him. He reminds me a lot in his videos.

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You realised that the L4D version on the 360 is inferior just because of the lack of modding community behind it, right?
 
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