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Old 12-12-2008
 
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Well, I would prefer that if the government is willing to serve the people and the peoples numerous needs. If this becomes a police state, then so be it. That just might be the better system.

What branch of military are you in, BTW Hawaiian
 
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False, as we have demonstrated.
What? Where the hell have you "demonstrated" this? You are the slayer of the American system of government.

I'm sorry but the ludicrousness of all this is getting to be a bit much.

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I know, just like the "nonsense" Ron Paul was talking in 2006 about the economic crisis that we were going to face, and his spot-on predictions about the government bailing out the financial industry with tax dollars, all of which came true, and all of which you denied in their entirety.
Yes I'm sure I said all that and you aren't just talking out of your ass.

Refer to my signature and sit down.

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It's a safe assumption to make that when Chaos says something is "nonsense" it's probably 100% accurate, and everything Chaos is saying is just that, nonsense.
I don't jump for joy at some fantasy of being in the military in a police state, and I don't turn my back on my country. I also apparently know better than certain members of the military as to whether the United States would win a certain war that shall remain nameless to prevent further embarrassment to this alleged military member, since we all know the Coast Guard is just a bunch of drunk middle-aged southerners with shotguns and grenades on a boat somewhere in the Gulf of Mexico.

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With that amount of money they could buy the major US banks. Our government bought em for less than that!
That sure will help them when their water runs out!

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Ok fine, maybe not China considering how 1/3 of its population largely located in the western provinces lives in extreme poverty. But Russia I wouldn't think so much. People in Russia are generally living a more or less modern lifestyle now. It's certainly not on par with the United States, but it's definitely not the shithole it was in the 90s. I don't think the "average Russian" is all that bad off today
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...elopment_Index

Countries like Russia are like the US in the 1950s. Except everything is more expensive, less reliable, and the government shoots you in broad daylight if it doesn't like you. Sounds good to you!

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I think you misunderstood. I meant more along the lines of dealing with civil unrest and domestic terrorism. I fear that the United States will become ill equipped to deal with such threats if the anti war crowd and defeatists gain momentum and vote in retarded pacifist politicians and appeasers. Obviously China will not fare well when it comes to the environment or energy, that's a given, but I think they do a good job in controlling occasional rioting and civil disturbances brought on by Muslims in its western provinces.
This is the United States. You have some weird ideas about Americans. All of you weirdos do.
 
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What? Where the hell have you "demonstrated" this? You are the slayer of the American system of government.

I'm sorry but the ludicrousness of all this is getting to be a bit much.
Well I guess Venezuela is a democracy too because Hugo Chavez wasn't voted out. So is Russia.

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Yes I'm sure I said all that and you aren't just talking out of your ass.

Refer to my signature and sit down.
Denial.

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I don't jump for joy at some fantasy of being in the military in a police state, and I don't turn my back on my country. I also apparently know better than certain members of the military as to whether the United States would win a certain war that shall remain nameless to prevent further embarrassment to this alleged military member, since we all know the Coast Guard is just a bunch of drunk middle-aged southerners with shotguns and grenades on a boat somewhere in the Gulf of Mexico.
You turned your back on this country long ago Chaos.
 
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Old 12-15-2008
 
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My reply to any and all of DE's spectacularly retarded posts from now on has been given standard form and can easily be found here:

http://blizzforums.com/showpost.php?...&postcount=109
 
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Yes you do have a right to rebel. The country was founded on such principle and it is what lead to the desegregation of the South. But as shown in both scenarios, don't expect the government to take it lying down. If you break a law as say "well I thought it was unjust.", then too bad jail for you. It takes a group for civil disobedience to work. The 2nd Amendment was made on the principal that should the government become tyrannical, the populace could rebel and form a new government. So go ahead and do whatever the fuck you want DE, but your just gonna end up in jail if you can't muster up a large group to tear the government down.
 
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Yes you do have a right to rebel. The country was founded on such principle and it is what lead to the desegregation of the South. But as shown in both scenarios, don't expect the government to take it lying down. If you break a law as say "well I thought it was unjust.", then too bad jail for you. It takes a group for civil disobedience to work. The 2nd Amendment was made on the principal that should the government become tyrannical, the populace could rebel and form a new government. So go ahead and do whatever the fuck you want DE, but your just gonna end up in jail if you can't muster up a large group to tear the government down.
Please do encourage him.

It's really silly do, why is everything rebelling against the government like a bunch of small children. Just accept it, it is there and it isn't worth your time and effort trying to change. Use it. You're supposed to be human and highly adaptive to your environment. I don't accept the government as any form of authority, yet I have to consider its actions and its motives. It's a great actor though, it's steered by people that are terribly afraid and have voluntarily binded themselves to a set of rules limiting their power as an actor severly. And people tell me that democracy is a bad thing.
 

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Old 12-23-2008
 
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DE fantasizes about being ordered by President Obama to oppress the citizenry of the United States - just what role the Coast Guard would play in such a thing is a mystery - yet he claims here that the US government is not representative of the wishes of the people and should not have its authority recognized.

So which is it? Wet dreams of being part of the apparatus of a police state, or principled stand for liberty?

Thread over, move on.
 
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Blah blah blah, Mr. "Im gonna join the military when as soon as I turn 18" yet when the time comes realizes he just doesn't got what it takes.
 
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Chaos has a point, DE. You are polar opposites within one entity. On the one hand you claim you support individualistic, Jeffersonian liberalism, yet you advocate socialism and have stated you would enforce a totalitarian regime.

Also: Coast Guard? C'mon! I have to rag some, (two brothers are in the Army) but seriously! They play with boats.

 
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