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I was wondering what you guys think about the JFK assassination. I'm really not a fan of conspiracy theories because most of them are there to complicate something simple, because sometimes things that are simple are scary (for example the WTC attacks, I hate loose change).

But anyway, I think that the JFK murder has a lot of weird things about it. But without getting into any complicated debates, without even talking about where people saw the entry/exit wounds in his head, I look at the Zapruder film:




damn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E66__...eature=related

And can't really believe that the last shot came from behind. Why not? Because he is thrown backwards/sideways as he receives the shot. There's really no workaround that one, I think. Had he been shot from behind, he would've been thrown forwards.

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I think he deserved it, filthy catholic bastards.

I generally don't believe in conspiracy theories just like you do. Even in this case, there are several sources on the internet dedicated in dispelling the claims made by conspiracy theorists and I find their explanations to be more credible. They ones dedicated a show to it on discovery, they also dealt with the shot from behind, you could probably look it up on google.
 
 

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I think he deserved it, filthy catholic bastards.
I hope that's a joke.

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I generally don't believe in conspiracy theories just like you do. Even in this case, there are several sources on the internet dedicated in dispelling the claims made by conspiracy theorists and I find their explanations to be more credible. They ones dedicated a show to it on discovery, they also dealt with the shot from behind, you could probably look it up on google.
What sources? And do you honestly believe Oswald was alone in it? I find that impossible to believe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E66__...eature=related
 

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I hope that's a joke.
Ofcourse it is. From what I can gather Kennedy bathed regularly and his mother was married to his father.

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What sources? And do you honestly believe Oswald was alone in it? I find that impossible to believe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E66__...eature=related
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy...iracy_theories

whackjobs all of them.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
 

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This "conspiracy" theory has been debunked so many times by so many sources that it's tooth-grinding to have to even hear it brought up again. "It looks to me like he was shot from..." by some clown who's never seen someone shot before has to be one of the dumbest bases for beginning an investigation on Earth. Until you've reviewed a few thousand bullet shots in the head in a moving vehicle from behind, don't remark about what you should be seeing.

This goes for WTC crap too, where people cite such things as the melting point of steel as to why the WTC couldn't have collapsed. Despite that, I don't know, there was a giant plane smashed into the side? Would that factor in to some burning? I think so. I think it also factors in that when you suddenly remove two stories in a skyscraper, the odds of probability are stacked that the top is going to fall on the bottom and crush the floors below it.
 
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Oh, jeez not this Oliver Stone Bullshit again. Amok you are fucking gullible as a fucking retard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62gvoKyODu4

Not only that it doesn't take a ballistic expert to tell you that what you are seeing in the Zapruder film is a fucking exit wound.

The best proof that Oswald acted alone is Oswald himself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald

His history is strikingly familiar with other psychos who've fucking climbed towers to shoot people.

Oh, and there is a nice little British documentary about this subject. I point out that it's British so you can't say it's just lies put out by the American government. Not that that has ever stopped conpiracytards from claiming those whacky Brits are in on it to.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...33155238761777

Oh, and one more fucking thing. Oliver Stone sucks fat cock.
 
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This goes for WTC crap too, where people cite such things as the melting point of steel as to why the WTC couldn't have collapsed.
What I'm interested in is the building 7 implosion. It's pretty remarkable from an engineering perspective as it sets a precedent as being the first time a tall building collapsed primarily from uncontrolled fires.
 

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...62020229593250

http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/t..._1120_wtc7.htm

http://wtc.nist.gov/

Because conspiracy assholes can't be bothered to do research.
 
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Because conspiracy assholes can't be bothered to do research.
Indeed.
 
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WoW you weren't through all that material awfully quick. Either that or you just dismissed it out right as interfering with your ideology, like always.
 

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Indeed.
I'm just curious, are you so dubious of all things you have never seen before, or just the ones that can convienently be pinned on some unpopular government with dubious unsupported rationalizations?
 
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Everyone knows that that the US Government killed JFK cause he wanted to actually do good things and help the people.
 
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My friend took a course on the Kennedy Assassination last year and from what he told me it's rather obvious that Oswald was not alone in it. His placement, his experience with a rifle, the number of shots the rifle he used could could per second, the distance from the motorcade, the wounds found on Kennedy, the exit wounds, other people who were shot, all point to the fact that it was impossible, both rationally and scientifically that Oswald was alone. Also, Oswald's own assassination brings up further confusion. Murdered alone by a man he didn't know at all nor had had any contact with in (if I remember correctly) in a basement of a police station the day after the assassination.

Anyway, while I don't let it dominate my thoughts on the era, I don't believe JFK was killed by Oswald but I don't care to speculate that it might have been the CIA or Aliens or Jesus. However, I do get really annoyed at people who blindly dismiss what might be considered conspiracy theories, I think a healthy interest in issues which seem confusing or events which dont add up is normal (becoming an arbiter of truth when you don't have an experience in these realms is where you go wrong though), because U.S. presidents and Governments are not infallible and do sometimes commit public atrocities or step outside the bounds of what is legal.

What I am concerned about is that by the time the records are opened so much time will have passed that the American public will be disinterested by the news and, if conspiracy theorists are right, they will not recognise the gravity of an assassination which was orchestrated within the government.

That's what I think..
 
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I do get really annoyed at people who blindly dismiss what might be considered conspiracy theories,
Yeah, clearly everyone who disagrees with you is just blind. So, did you watch the documentary? Did you read the books? Did you actually do any fucking research yourself? Or did you just take the word of some fucking friend who thinks he knows more then the scientific opinion because he took a semester of college. You're the one who is blind here, and further more you're a totally asshole to boot.
 
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Jesus guys, I'd never been interested by the question, I don't really know much about it. That's why I posted something here. No need to insult me. I'm not even saying there was a conspiracy.

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This "conspiracy" theory has been debunked so many times by so many sources that it's tooth-grinding to have to even hear it brought up again. "It looks to me like he was shot from..." by some clown who's never seen someone shot before has to be one of the dumbest bases for beginning an investigation on Earth. Until you've reviewed a few thousand bullet shots in the head in a moving vehicle from behind, don't remark about what you should be seeing.

This goes for WTC crap too, where people cite such things as the melting point of steel as to why the WTC couldn't have collapsed. Despite that, I don't know, there was a giant plane smashed into the side? Would that factor in to some burning? I think so. I think it also factors in that when you suddenly remove two stories in a skyscraper, the odds of probability are stacked that the top is going to fall on the bottom and crush the floors below it.
I don't need to analyze hundreds of shots to know what should happen. Imagine If everyone were as insecure of their own intelligence as you, no one would ever try to explain anything. If you can't use your brain, that's not my fault. I can use mine, I assure you. I was just saying that when a force acts on something that things moves in the direction of that force, and not the opposite. It's simple physics. Come up with an argument against that and I'll listen to you.

If it's so annoying to you to have to hear something like this again, to the point that you don't want to argue about it, then don't reply.

There's even an official investigation that concluded that there was the possibility that Oswald wasn't alone in it. Even that it is probable that the assassination was the result of a conspiracy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_S...Assassinations
 

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