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Old 08-20-2008
 
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You can infract and delete my post, but I still say NAU can kiss my ass.
 
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You can infract and delete my post, but I still say NAU can kiss my ass.
Uhhhhhhhh....
Just justify yourself and no one is going to infract you or delete your post.
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There's no reason for a NAU. Speaking as an American, I don't want my economy dragged to hell to join Mexico's. It's bad enough the way mexicans leech from the system already without rewarding the non fence jumpers too.

A US-Canada union would be bad too-
1)We don't need our hat glued to our head(runs off into the night)
2)Things work fine as they are now, without setting things up for a NWO takeover.
If anything, States(and by the same way provinces) need more autonomy. As Drakain said, more people get what they want or close to it at the local level than on a grander scale. And those who don't are more likely to be satisfied with the comprimise they get at a lower level than a national one.
 
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Old 08-21-2008
 
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I believe we should be breaking into smaller nations.

We need smaller groups of people who can all agree on something, rather than larger groups of people within which we have smaller groups of people that disagree too greatly on the same thing. We all get along dandy, it's when someone else tells us to live their way that we don't. Our empires are much too large. To avoid a total collapse of things within the next 500 years and maintain our ideals, the national governments should fade away and give control to their provinces/states/regions, and let the locals say how they want to live locally. Rather than the people in Ottawa decide how to live in Washington.

The governments are too deep into things they shouldn't be... taxing you for making money this way... you bought something special so you're taxed more... We have the ability but are incapable of managing our nations with any efficiency. Let the locals live how they want. We don't need a global government to tell us. 51% stomps on the 49% because they disagree. Rather than giving 51% what they want, and 49% what they want. Things are too big, and why? For more control? We don't need kings. We need people.

Things are simply "too big" to fight the battles that need to be fought. Having a voice in the country leader's head is hard. Even if you get your way, hundreds of millions will be upset with you. Having a voice in your municipality isn't nearly as big of a challenge. Things are manageable. Things can change easier. The locals will decide what they want locally.

Why would we want a NAU? So canada, mexico and the usa can all fight against each other and get less accomplished as each looks out for it's own people?

Government has become a way to id-tag and control the masses, rather than a central instution that's actions reflect the wishes of the people. a NAU, EU, and AU will bring us further into a "boot-on-my-face-forever" future as they form a mismanaged NWO without scruples. This is because we haven't corrected any of the problems we have with our governments, and basically are saying "lets make them more powerful."

I agree. I find it scary how few people know who Alex Jones is(More than just his page on wiki).
 
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Old 08-21-2008
 
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I agree. I find it scary how few people know who Alex Jones is(More than just his page on wiki).
In the future please explain how that is important to the topic...
I have no idea who he is, and after a google search he's a nutbag up there with David Ike and his 4th dimensional lizard men from the inside of the earth on a far away planet that controls the masons.
 
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I used to think that about Alex Jones too, now I love listening to the guy.
 
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You would love listening to that nutjob.

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It just means the 49% of people don't get what they want-- and that's a hell of a lot of people. The systems are awful, no one gets heard, corruption is disgusting, personal ego and ambitions of politicians trump what the peasantry wants. A portion even smaller than 49% of the people are truly involved in the democratic process (filling out a leadership vote is the democratic equivalent of sticking a feather in your cap called macaroni... much more goes on), and of them, why should any politician care what they say?
You think that ideology transcends nationalism to a decisive degree?

I would have thought the USSR going down would have finally put that one to bed. The attempt to bring that nonsense in through the back door with global warming has failed pretty badly too.

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National interest should be the decisive factor in any policy decision.

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I agree. I find it scary how few people know who Alex Jones is(More than just his page on wiki).
I find it scary that Alex Jones is still alive. Where are the stormtroopers, out for lunch?

Alex Jones is still breathing, his theories are dumbshit. Irrefutable.
 
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No killing Alex Jones would obviously prove his theories. D'oh.
 
 

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Alex Jones is funny because he subscribes to just about every crazy tinfoil conspiracy you can think of like artificially engineered energy scarcities to further some NWO plot.
 
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Old 08-22-2008
 
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As crazy it it seems, you have to admit there;s a lot of damning evidence against this NWO group. It can be found right in public record, and the government must let you see it by the freedom of information act. Most people try not to think on it though.
The implications if he were right are too much for them.
 
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Old 08-23-2008
 
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As crazy it it seems, you have to admit there;s a lot of damning evidence against this NWO group. It can be found right in public record, and the government must let you see it by the freedom of information act. Most people try not to think on it though.
The implications if he were right are too much for them.
No there isn't. cause I got stocks in the NWO
 
 

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Old 08-23-2008
 
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As crazy it it seems, you have to admit there;s a lot of damning evidence against this NWO group. It can be found right in public record, and the government must let you see it by the freedom of information act. Most people try not to think on it though.
The implications if he were right are too much for them.
And where exactly is this?
 
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US Public records. By law, the government must give you copies of of any non-classified document you wish to read, under the freedom of information act.
The Bildiburg group agenda is printed in black and white.

The Patriot act part 2 proposes that the gov be allowed to declare matrial law to whatever they see fit. And once they declare it, it will never be lifted.
 
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US Public records. By law, the government must give you copies of of any non-classified document you wish to read, under the freedom of information act.
The Bildiburg group agenda is printed in black and white.

The Patriot act part 2 proposes that the gov be allowed to declare matrial law to whatever they see fit. And once they declare it, it will never be lifted.
Soo... lets start off with this... We have a NGO that's giving the department of records their agenda... why? It's like saying I here in Canada have to give you the details of who I went to the bar with the other night because you're an American and have FOIA.

So really, where is your source? Because it's a huge pile of bullshit and we both know you (or someone else) pulled that out of your ass.
 
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