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Old 02-14-2009
 
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Man this Starcraft Ghost issue is out of proportion in any sense, but to hear some of the comments made about China is just absurd.
Just because their system may be different than yours and your understanding, that doesn't mean its wrong or bad.

Yeah censoring a SCI-FI game name is exaggerated, but on the other hand when you hear countries talk about them selfs as the messiah over and over again is a lot worse than this!
Socialism is bad. That's a fact. A little history lesson will tell you that. That said, although China's government does lots of bad things, they also do good things, like censoring pornography.
 
 

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I agree that all forms of censorship to protect against cultural invacion are ridiculous.
But many countrys do that every day.

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China once banned bibles for similar reasons. (Too much crime, magic, etc in them.)
But the U.S. also censored scientific books in some states as the theory of evolution, etc..
I think it is unethical to any country to decide and limit the information that reaches you.


 
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I agree that all forms of censorship to protect against cultural invacion are ridiculous.
But many countrys do that every day.


But the U.S. also censored scientific books in some states as the theory of evolution, etc..
I think it is unethical to any country to decide and limit the information that reaches you.

It's just as stupid when the US does it. It's also stupid when a country burns Harry Potter DVDs in an "old-fashioned book burning" kind of way.
 

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I remember when I was into Magic: The Gathering. There were some cards with skeletons on them that had to be changed because the chinese government doesn't allow skeletons or something to be shown
 
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It's just as stupid when the US does it. It's also stupid when a country burns Harry Potter DVDs in an "old-fashioned book burning" kind of way.
What worrying is the degree to which it is institutionalized in China. There's a big difference between nut-cases claiming Harry Potter is "satanic" and a government actually banning something because the title promotes "feudal superstition". The nut-cases at least are sincere (doesn't stop them from being nut-cases though) and don't have the bureaucratic system of a government standing behind them.
 
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Socialism is bad. That's a fact. A little history lesson will tell you that. That said, although China's government does lots of bad things, they also do good things, like censoring pornography.
China isn't socialism, its a mix of capitalism and socialism. At a political level, it follows the Communist ideals, minus the no class rule. Only reason why socialism sucks is because Humans are fundamentally flawed (you could argue the ideology/system itself is also flawed). We are selfish creatures who seek for our own well being and power.

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What worrying is the degree to which it is institutionalized in China. There's a big difference between nut-cases claiming Harry Potter is "satanic" and a government actually banning something because the title promotes "feudal superstition". The nut-cases at least are sincere (doesn't stop them from being nut-cases though) and don't have the bureaucratic system of a government standing behind them.
Didn't the Catholic Church declare Harry Potter as satanic or some sort of country?
 
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We are selfish creatures who seek for our own well being and power.
Every single creature on this earth does the exact same thing. it's just that we are the only ones able to realize it.
 
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Every single creature on this earth does the exact same thing. it's just that we are the only ones able to realize it.
Eh, your right about that. But it doesn't change a fact that Humans are fundamentally flawed, except that we're not the only ones flawed.
 
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Socialism is bad. That's a fact. A little history lesson will tell you that. That said, although China's government does lots of bad things, they also do good things, like censoring pornography.
No its not, maybe your book is biased since US is the "democracy" type and bashes any country it sees as competition in economy or military.

Socialism isn't bad, its got its good and bad points just as every system there was from the beginning, starting from Mesopotamia!

BTW why the fear of China?
It was like this 10 years ago with US citizens towards Russia, now towards china.
I mean come on, yes they will take over the world largest and strongest economy in a year or two, so what?
 
 

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Oh no this is going to turn into a political thread even more...
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Although China's government does lots of bad things, they also do good things, like censoring pornography.
Oh, so censorship is good sometimes and bad sometimes? Please explain why censoring sexual content is good but censoring video games is bad. Or to go more directly for the point: why is it good to suppress what the government considers sexual deviants but bad to suppress political deviants?

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No its not, maybe your book is biased since US is the "democracy" type and bashes any country it sees as competition in economy or military.

Socialism isn't bad, its got its good and bad points just as every system there was from the beginning, starting from Mesopotamia!
Yes, but some systems are better and others are worse.

The real problem is that you can't just lump all "socialist" governments into one big category. Even Chinese and Soviet systems had big differences in implementation. Then you also have modern-day "social democratic" parties all over (especially Northern Europe).
 
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No, Communism isn't bad. It's just that it hasn't been done right yet. In fact, some of the worst tyrants and political governments in the world have been Communist. I also hate how Communists tend to think everything should be free and that it's some how a crime to have more money than them because someone works harder. That's why almost everything from China is uniformly low-quality and, in some cases, dangerous to children.

Also, as far as China being the biggest economy in a few years, that's only because America provides jobs for them. That's where a vast majority of their economy comes from. But, also, even if it did become the largest economy, the average citizen would still be much poorer than the average American.
 
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You forgot to mention a detail that China's population is 1.3 billion big, that's roughly more than 4 times the population of United States. It's a little bit harder to raise the average GDP per capita if there's so many of them.

Besides the point, this is starting to become political.
 
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Also, I hate to sound racist, but China doesn't have to deal with the minority immigration from other countries that America has to. I'm glad they offer their services to America but most of the time they just come here to sell drugs or bring their gangs across seas

I'm from Miami so maybe my viewpoint isn't the average around America but really they do bring down the education system as well.
 
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Also, I hate to sound racist, but China doesn't have to deal with the minority immigration from other countries that America has to. I'm glad they offer their services to America but most of the time they just come here to sell drugs or bring their gangs across seas

I'm from Miami so maybe my viewpoint isn't the average around America but really they do bring down the education system as well.
That's pretty weird. In Canada they [Asians] substantially bring up the grade averages, at least where I'm living and from what I'm getting at.

And yes, China doesn't have to deal with the immigration crap. Why? Because the Western nations are the envy of the world. We pride ourselves with luxurious wealth and opportunity to strive for a better lifestyle. It's not to say that everywhere else is shit, it's rather that we are in one of the best places to be compare to other nations that are doing very poorly.
 
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