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Old 02-04-2009
 
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Default Does anyone actually know how the medic and medivac work?

I mean, in atmospheric-less environments, medics or medivacs wouldn't be able to actually do much to help marines, since the moment an opening is made to the marine's wound, he's probably going to die due to the vacuum of space. Although, I do realize most battles probably take place on atmoshperic evnrionements or terraformed places.

I personally think medics actually come with tools that allow them to repair marine armour. In atmospheric environments they'd most likely do their on site surgery, then proceed to repair the marine's armour (to some functional extent) so that he can continue to fight. In space, I guess the best they would be able to do is do on site repairs (and in game it only works for bio tagged units because medics weren't meant for helping tanks)

As for the medivac, I suppose unless Blizzard comes up with lore explanations for the healing beam, they'd realistically perform surgery within the medivac.

By the way... does anyone know how/if the Zerg are affected by varying degrees of gravity on different planets?

Oh yeah, the wiki also says that medics administer to dying marines a drug called the "Final Protocol." What is this anyway?
 
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I always thought they sprayed nanites/nanobots at them, which can pass through the armor either by opened area or helmet into the infantry's body system. They might act as artificial immunity where white blood cells fail, maybe even rapidly eliminate foreign substances like Zerg toxins, repair tissues and stem faster cell reproduction.


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I'm pretty sure "Medics" and "Medivacs" simply repair the Marines' suits, and don't do anything for the soldiers themselves. Since it only takes one Impaler slug to rip apart an unarmored civilian, I'm guessing 39 of those 40 HP are all armor.
 
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I'm pretty sure "Medics" and "Medivacs" simply repair the Marines' suits, and don't do anything for the soldiers themselves. Since it only takes one Impaler slug to rip apart an unarmored civilian, I'm guessing 39 of those 40 HP are all armor.
Then does the stimpack tax the armor and not the person?

(of course, it's futile to argue game mechanics to lore )
 
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I'm pretty sure "Medics" and "Medivacs" simply repair the Marines' suits, and don't do anything for the soldiers themselves. Since it only takes one Impaler slug to rip apart an unarmored civilian, I'm guessing 39 of those 40 HP are all armor.
According to the wiki, medics actually have surgical tools. PsiWarp has a feasible theory though I suppose.
 
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It could be something like this: the medic connects a tube a port in the marines suit allowing them to access the marine without exposing the marine to vacuum. Then they could spray some kind of gas in their which helps the marines injuries heal extremely fast and give them painkillers at the same time.

The medivac sends out tiny little robots which do the same thing.

It doesn't make any sense that they repair the suits.
 
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Repairing power armor could also be a Medic's engineering degree


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Then does the stimpack tax the armor and not the person?

(of course, it's futile to argue game mechanics to lore )
You're right, it makes no sense! If my theory borders on the correct, the logical explanation would probably be that the hit point loss is only meant to represent the Marines' lack of clear-mindedness which would result in taking less precautions in battle.


Healing doesn't really make sense just because of how powerful the Marines' Gauss rifles are purported to be -- if the bullet got through the suit and injured the Marine, the question is, why didn't it kill him?

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One of those would be enough to kill someone, but Marines fire up to 30 rounds per second, so chances are that Marine's going to be leaking blood faster than a Zergling pinata. So if they're going to stick to the "actually healing" route, let's just say that the Dominion best have a lot of Medics on hand...
 
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In all the game, I've never seen any reason to believe medics are able to heal in a vacuum. Space platforms have artificial atmosphere or the vulture rider and battlecruiser pilots (civilian unit) would have suffocated. Terran Marines have yet to be shown fighting in an atmosphere devoid environment, so the concept of healing in a vacuum would be entirely speculation.

And then someone posts something from a novel which voids all of my above post.
 
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This raises another interesting point, why is Hellion armour considered different from Marine armour, yet not from building armour (a SCV can repair a Hellion, yet can't actually build one). Perhaps the logic of this would be to split Terrans into either buildings or units catergories, rather than the current method of infantry or everything else. After this you could resurrect the Medic as an Engineer.

Of course, if you really wanted to go realistic you could split the hitpoints of many Terran units into Armour and Flesh (something like the Protoss Shields and Health), with Engineers able to repair Armour, but Flesh only being healable by either a Medic/Medivac, or a base structure.
 
 

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I don't think a small hole in your armor, leading to space, would cause that much damage, as long as you have air.

People have suffered partial exposure to space like that in real life with little problem.

In addition to fixing the armor, those nanites might be able to infiltrate it (through the holes?) and either seal up the hole or work on the flesh (or both).
 

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Silly guys, haven't you seen Star Trek? Point the expensive remote control at the wounded party, and hit the HEAL button!
 
 

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So so its clear, at no point in the game have we fought in a vacuum. Terran Space Platforms have artificial gravity and a viable atmosphere.
 
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Oh yeah, the wiki also says that medics administer to dying marines a drug called the "Final Protocol." What is this anyway?[/quote]


Interesting you mention that Wolf, I always thought the final protocol was akin to something like the bio-foam mentioned in Halo that would basically allow for normal body function for the duration of the battle, but the marine would eventually succumb to their wounds if they were massive enough if the medics could not get them to a medivac or some sort of hospital in time. It would make some sense to me, although I love the nano-tech a lot, the possibilites with those are just crazy to think about; but I understand you're also an imagination junky like myself, hehe.
 
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You're right, it makes no sense! If my theory borders on the correct, the logical explanation would probably be that the hit point loss is only meant to represent the Marines' lack of clear-mindedness which would result in taking less precautions in battle.


Healing doesn't really make sense just because of how powerful the Marines' Gauss rifles are purported to be -- if the bullet got through the suit and injured the Marine, the question is, why didn't it kill him?



One of those would be enough to kill someone, but Marines fire up to 30 rounds per second, so chances are that Marine's going to be leaking blood faster than a Zergling pinata. So if they're going to stick to the "actually healing" route, let's just say that the Dominion best have a lot of Medics on hand...
but what about zergling attack which can leave a marine wounded but alive. or hydralisk, splash damage? and not everyone is wearing armor i think.

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The UED's technological prowess included the field of medical science. Medic tools have been expanded to chemical modifiers increasing marine survival rates and the use of nano-conveyed anesthetic and attenuated lasers to carry out on-site surgery.[4] However, casualties will still occur and for dying marines, medics administer a drug known as the "Final Protocol."[5]
from the starcraft WIKI http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Medic
 
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