Less regulation, not more, is needed for the meat industry

[Troll]

I don't think you have much basis for chastising me about "bringing drug problems into this". The point of taking my son to a soup kitchen is to show him that there are people who are happy to get food, any food. These people are available in America, which you claimed there were not. Now you are trying to move the goalposts as though I did something disingenuous. You proved your own statement false, don't bitch at me about it.

I said that obesity is an epidemic among the poor, and that starvation for the most part does not occur in the United States. This information pretty much pre-empts whatever unrelated point you were trying to make. If you can quote the part where I said people won't eat free food feel free to do so.

To you, it's important that your son enjoy mealtimes with specific, expensive foods. To me, it's important that my son understands that to be able to eat and be nourished is a privilege. Hopefully someday, he will understand that when he can appreciate that, every bite of food will taste better, no matter what it is.

I don't foresee that being a big problem for my kid. He's 3. For now we eat good. And we are thankful for mealtime, we give thanks and praise every day. I'm religious remember? I believe God could take everything away at any moment so for me each day is a blessing.

[Bodhi]

I said that obesity is an epidemic among the poor, and that starvation for the most part does not occur in the United States. This information pretty much pre-empts whatever unrelated point you were trying to make. If you can quote the part where I said people won't eat free food feel free to do so.

I repeat, I wasn't making any point. You are literally arguing with yourself. You claimed that the poor in the U.S. were overfed and overfat. Then I brought up a soup kitchen and homeless and you started arguing about the disingenuous nature of bringing "drugs" into the discussion.

I don't foresee that being a big problem for my kid. He's 3. For now we eat good. And we are thankful for mealtime, we give thanks and praise every day. I'm religious remember? I believe God could take everything away at any moment so for me each day is a blessing.

I have no idea what Jesus has to do with your child throwing things if his food isn't fresh, but perhaps we have inherent differences in regards to what constitutes thankfulness. I wouldn't doubt it.

[AbdulTheButcher]

Organic is a scam. As far as I know, there is no evidence against the use of pesticides and what have you.

You are wrong. Get lost.

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As opposed to genetically engineered ones with hormones/chemicals/toxic pesticides that bioaccumulate and cause a litany of preventable health problems?

I'm sorry, but even though you're on the other side of the argument, this just happens to be a bunch of bullshit too (the highlighted part). There is nothing inherently dangerous about "genetically modified" foods. Pesticides and hormones can in some cases increase the risk of cancer and neutrological disorders. But whether a grown product is "genetically modified" is on its own, entirely meaningless (and in fact, many GM foods have been successfully engineered by molecular biologists with the precise intent of altering the metabolism of certain foods to allow those foods to contain macro-nutrients that would otherwise be in deficit).

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Thats because the majority of deaths during the paleolithic era were due to infectious diseases, hunger, famine, or being slaughtered by larger animals or tribal competitors. Environmental exposures and hazards in lifestyle (such as doing backbreaking work) also played a significant role in reduction of lifespan. Lack of a sanitation system and high childhood mortality rates as well. The actual maximum lifespan of anyone who was fortunate enough to avoid all of those things (an astronomically rare event for those times) was actually pretty high.

I guarantee you that switching over to a paleo diet will not result in the reduction of your lifespan to 30.

Don't get me wrong, I'm one of those people who lives to eat,

Then you are a shallow person and your life is empty. No different from a cockroach.

Funny how every day I am vindicated in my belief that human beings, for the most part, are not really all that much different from other species of animals, yet always consider themselves to be somehow "special" or as "higher" forms of life with some sort of magnanimous privilege to control things in their life. What a delusion!


Look at yourselves in the mirrors. No seriously, whoever's reading this, do yourself a favor, and go take a look at yourself in the mirror. You are a defecating, rotting piece of meat.

The majority of human beings are nothing more than pests.

[Bodhi]

The point of that cartoon was that organic foods' disingenuous claim that they promote longevity, when in fact there are many more factors at play than simply what we eat. Hopefully most people can understand the cartoons' intent without feeling the need to point out the obvious, as though they are too dense to take a point.

[Troll]

I repeat, I wasn't making any point. You are literally arguing with yourself. You claimed that the poor in the U.S. were overfed and overfat. Then I brought up a soup kitchen and homeless and you started arguing about the disingenuous nature of bringing "drugs" into the discussion.

The poor are obese, "soup kitchens" (they don't just serve soup by the way, this isn't the 30's cliche) aren't even relevant to anything I said, and homeless people use drugs.

I have no idea what Jesus has to do with your child throwing things if his food isn't fresh, but perhaps we have inherent differences in regards to what constitutes thankfulness. I wouldn't doubt it.

Well thats more a function of age than anything. 3 year olds throw shit if you didn't know. I'm skeptical that you've even raised kids by the way you are talking.

The point of that cartoon was that organic foods' disingenuous claim that they promote longevity, when in fact there are many more factors at play than simply what we eat. Hopefully most people can understand the cartoons' intent without feeling the need to point out the obvious, as though they are too dense to take a point.

Sure there are more factors, but that doesn't mean eating pesticides is good for you.

You're a guy who still believes that drinking fluoride is good for you because the government told him so. I'm 99.99999% you use fluoride toothpaste. I'm sorry but I just can't understand people like you. For some reason the contradiction does not register in your brain.

[Bodhi]

Homeless people are more often than not byproducts of mental disorders, which tend to lead to drug addiction. Regardless, my 3 year old didn't throw shit, and the fact that since you allow your three your old to throw shit means that all three year olds throw shit confirms a lot about my impressions about the way you think. I've raised three, this is what, your first? Of course, thereby you're an expert and have every basis for calling into question my expertise. Fucking dumbass.

[AbdulTheButcher]

I've raised three, this is what, your first?

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[Red Lucy]

Then you are a shallow person and your life is empty. No different from a cockroach.

Funny how every day I am vindicated in my belief that human beings, for the most part, are not really all that much different from other species of animals, yet always consider themselves to be somehow "special" or as "higher" forms of life with some sort of magnanimous privilege to control things in their life. What a delusion!

Look at yourselves in the mirrors. No seriously, whoever's reading this, do yourself a favor, and go take a look at yourself in the mirror. You are a defecating, rotting piece of meat.

The majority of human beings are nothing more than pests.

Well if you want to pick out that statement and ignore everything else surrounding it, I am not at all surprised you wouldn't understand that it was a pretty obvious hyperbole.

I'm sure you enjoy sex. Does that bring you to a more carnal, inferior level? Food, pleasure, jealousy, competitiveness, etc. You could call all of these things carnal behaviors. People absolutely have the ability to control these things, they often just choose not to. There is no delusion. We are separated from animals because we are aware that we are a self and an individual; we are cognitive.

Well thats more a function of age than anything. 3 year olds throw shit if you didn't know. I'm skeptical that you've even raised kids by the way you are talking.

When I babysit toddlers, I can almost immediately tell whether the parent is a rigid authority or a little bitch that constantly gives into their tantrums. There certainly exists an association of behavior with age, but come on dude. It's never an excuse or explanation, and it's not OK or commendable, regardless of whether the kid is mad about their food not being fresh or being told they cannot have a toy in the store.

[AbdulTheButcher]

Well if you want to pick out that statement and ignore everything else surrounding it, I am not at all surprised you wouldn't understand that it was a pretty obvious hyperbole.

I'm sure you enjoy sex. Does that bring you to a more carnal, inferior level? Food, pleasure, jealousy, competitiveness, etc. You could call all of these things carnal behaviors. People absolutely have the ability to control these things, they often just choose not to. There is no delusion. We are separated from animals because we are aware that we are a self and an individual; we are cognitive.

You bother me. That is all.

[Red Lucy]

And that is your prerogative, HV, but I cut out being a misanthrope when I was a teen and am a lot better for it.

[Mike]

This thread was about motherfucking steaks and why meat is awesome.

Or if it wasn't it fucking is now.

Sirloin. 30 seconds a side. Still mooin' in the middle. If you want to feel primal or carnal, nothing like almost raw meat to make you feel like an apex predator.

[Troll]

Homeless people are more often than not byproducts of mental disorders, which tend to lead to drug addiction. Regardless, my 3 year old didn't throw shit, and the fact that since you allow your three your old to throw shit means that all three year olds throw shit confirms a lot about my impressions about the way you think. I've raised three, this is what, your first? Of course, thereby you're an expert and have every basis for calling into question my expertise. Fucking dumbass.

There is always lying! I forgot about that one too. You 3 year old has thrown shit in the past. I make that statement with unequivocable confidence.

When I babysit toddlers, I can almost immediately tell whether the parent is a rigid authority or a little bitch that constantly gives into their tantrums. There certainly exists an association of behavior with age, but come on dude. It's never an excuse or explanation, and it's not OK or commendable, regardless of whether the kid is mad about their food not being fresh or being told they cannot have a toy in the store.

Both you and your parenting style are a joke to me. I also find your impression of me to be amusing.

[Bodhi]

There is always lying! I forgot about that one too. You 3 year old has thrown shit in the past. I make that statement with unequivocable confidence.

The poor are obese

homeless people use drugs

there are more factors, but that doesn't mean eating pesticides is good for you

Either you're capable enough to understand when I am speaking in a generalization, or you are literally so stupid that you cannot. I am inclined to think you do understand what a generalization is, since I found the above three quotes in this page alone and they are all generalizations. You would literally have to be borderline mentally retarded to think that every single poor person is fat, that every person that has run away from home or lost their home to foreclosure is on drugs, or that imbibing any pesticide in any amount will always have negative health effects.

So either you are being a disingenuous jackass and decided that your substance for this disagreement is so piss poor that you have to desperately try to reframe an obvious generalization as a "lie", or you really are so stupid that you cannot recognize a generalization and don't understand it in context of the English language. Up to you, most intelligent member.

[Troll]

In that case you were making a generalizing about my son based on a single statement, which turned out to be innacurrate. Poor people are obese, homeless people use drugs, etc. are true generalizations. "and the fact that since you allow your three your old to throw shit" is not a true generalization. Understand the difference? In general, that's not true.

Don't get all pissy because you decided to make assumptions and generalizations that turned out to be false.

[Bodhi]

In that case you were making a generalizing about my son based on a single statement, which turned out to be innacurrate.

Plus my son is a picky eater, if it's not fresh he starts throwing shit.

Don't get all pissy because you decided to make assumptions and generalizations that turned out to be false.

Weird, you're arguing with yourself again. You throw out random "u mad bro?" statements at me, to include me, I guess?

It's gotten to the point where I feel like I'm just watching you flop around.